•   almost 5 years ago

Videos >2min

Hi DevPost,
I wrote you question on email 2 days ago but you did not answer (about video exceeding allowed time).
Can you please answer that or give me contact to FB representative responsible for this challenge?

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  • Manager   •   almost 5 years ago

    Hi Freddy,

    I'm sorry to hear that you didn't get a reply! We're usually quite quickly! I imagine you are asking why videos longer than 2 minutes are allowed? The short answer is we strongly recommend they be around 2 minutes, but we do not exclude anyone for it being longer. The rules state, "Create a video describing and demonstrating the Application, which should be less than two (2) minutes in duration."

    Two minutes is a guideline because we find it is generally adequate for a demo, especially when combined with the text description on your submission.

    All the best,
    Stefanie

  •   •   almost 5 years ago

    Sfefanie,
    So can you please respond to my email? It was sent on support@devpost.com (email sent 11th of Dec early morning from fredy.smith@yahoo.com, and then re-sent to you another day after I didn't get the reply).
    Can you please confirm you have received it? (maybe check if it landed in your spam etc. My yahoo account email status is showing that it's properly sent)
    Do you want me to send to to you on other email?
    btw. In email I aso attached you screenshots in the email from the Rules. Videos only up to 2 minutes are allowed. The Rules states it very clearly. It was not recommendation but requirement of the competition. That's why many participants including me made an effort to keep their message below 2 minutes. If I it was stated as "recommendation" in the Rules and was allowed to have longer video I would definitely have taken this opportunity and create more comprehensive video presentation of the product showing more features. But kept it <2 min according to the requirement. Competing with entries who have taken more time would not only be against the Rules but would also be unequal competition (i.e. it's like only during startup pitch session when some teams would have 1 minute on stage and others would have 2).
    I hope all participants will be treated equally in this respect and Rules will be followed.
    Kindly please respond to my original email. I'd like to have official response there as devpost email is official way of communication. I will write separate email to facebook email to have sure that matter will be properly handled.

  • Manager   •   almost 5 years ago

    Hi - I'm sorry that your emails were not replied to. I'm checking with our support team to see if there was any issue receiving your email. We'll respond to you again via email once we track it down.

    I assure you that all submissions are fairly and equally evaluated. We take it very seriously.

    All the best,
    Stefanie

  •   •   almost 5 years ago

    Hi Freddy Smith,

    A few months back Stefanie Maccarone had answered a question regarding the video length in one of the discussions !

    Discussion link : https://developercircles.devpost.com/forum_topics/6924-video-coverage-length

    She had mentioned "We won't penalize you for a longer video, but would still recommend keeping it around 2 minutes" !

    Thanks
    Nithin

  •   •   almost 5 years ago

    @Nithin NS will all due respect but official T&C of a challenge is kind of binding legal thing and cannot be made dependent on the discussion that happened online several months ago with other challenge.
    Only videos up to 2 min were allowed. I was in fact not asking about interpretation of the rule in previous post. If fact the rule is clear in that respect and it was not expressed as recommendation.

    @Stefanie - I did not manage to receiving ANY answer on email. I will write directly to facebook about that and about those rules. I'd like them to be respected and I cannot get that confirmation from you.

  • Manager   •   almost 5 years ago

    Hi Freddy,

    We've emailed you via support a few times, but have not received a response. Perhaps you're not receiving the messages?

    In any case, thank you for your concerns. While we can't comment on a submission which isn't yours, please be assured that we are following all rules properly and in all cases, and have reviewed all submissions that have come in to the competition. I don't see a submission under your username.

    Best,
    Stefanie

  •   •   almost 5 years ago

    Hi Freddy Smith,

    The discussion about the video length happened DURING the 'Submissions' period and the discussion was related to the SAME challenge (Developer Circles Community Competition).

    Discussion link : https://developercircles.devpost.com/forum_topics/6924-video-coverage-length

    Thanks
    Nithin

  •   •   almost 5 years ago

    I have received your questions from the support about which work is mine - obviously I don't want to reveal that and I am not required to reveal that if I want to make a point which is not related to any specific work but with the challenge as a whole.

    If you're working for a brand like Facebook I guess that being legally correct should be your FIRST priority.

    AGAIN:

    1.
    Videos only up to 2 minutes are allowed in this contest. The Rules states it very clearly. It was not recommendation but requirement of the competition.

    2.
    I hope all participants will be treated equally in this respect and Rules will be followed. Right now I can still see works in your gallery that are not meeting basic requirements described in T&C. I did not get any binding answer with regards to that, and instead I am being asked about what is my own work.

    3.
    many participants including me made an effort to keep their message below 2 minutes. If I it was stated as "recommendation" in the Rules and was allowed to have longer video I would definitely have taken this opportunity and create more comprehensive video presentation of the product showing more features. But kept it <2 min according to the requirement.

    4.
    please be fully transparent and fair with rules that you're making if you want it to be a positive event.
    i.e. If you are writing in the rules that only student is allowed for some the challenge/some award within the challenge - then you need to stick that that rule. No matter what. Even if you're not happy with amount of students submissions.
    If you're writing there's some requirement for the submission/video then you also need to stick to it. Be fair with the amount of proper entries you've got that are meeting requirements and you have specified on your own and do not try to throw in others.
    Otherwise you're unfair and you're risking user backlash / legal claims / twitter-shaming of you & your clients in some extreme cases.

  •   •   almost 5 years ago

    >Hi Freddy Smith,
    >The discussion about the video length happened DURING the 'Submissions' period
    FYI: discussions on the forum is NOT a source of legal authority her. Official Rules area.
    The rules of any competition run according to the US law are binding both for participants and administrator as well.

  •   •   almost 5 years ago

    Hey Anonymous,

    I wish we could have had this discussion during the 'Submissions' period .

    I hope you win !

    Thanks
    Nithin

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